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You just need to move into a state of reality in which the sending of an email to you by the system is 0‽ away. I don't know how many raccoons you have around, but it should not be very far.

Remember to keep the organs inside at all times.

Re: Hey I'm Wesley and i'm interested in the cuil theory. by anonymoul (guest), 1259683969|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I put forward (and this may have already come up) that the abstraction of a situation can be geometrically mapped, similar to the way a fractal is visualized.

An equation for infinite recursion:

Z <=> Z^2 + C

Where Z is a compex number (a + bi)
And C is some integer

In the case of Cuil theory, perhaps Z could represent a real situation, Z^2 could represent the degree of abstraction and C could represent additional parameters for abstraction.

Just something I thought about. Feedback?

This might be a useful equation to advance Cuil theory by ac3ravenac3raven, 1259639618|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
SkyWulf (guest) 1259612942|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Examples of Cuil in Action

I am the walrus.
I am the egg-man.

by SkyWulf (guest), 1259612942|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
hmm?
kev (guest) 1259361533|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » What Is Cuil Theory?

Very interesting, although it seems the best practical use of this would be with internet meme and other unexplainable shit you find on the world wide net. Distraction from reality, right?

hmm? by kev (guest), 1259361533|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

how do i join this site? it wont send me email link

Re: Hey I'm Wesley and i'm interested in the cuil theory. by Wesley Cool (guest), 1259287827|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hey is this site alive anymore? has anything been done lately to expand upon this idea? i discovered this theory recently and have become extrmely urious of the subject. I wish to learn more of it and expand on this idea.

Hey I'm Wesley and i'm interested in the cuil theory. by Wesley Cool (guest), 1259287778|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
i‽
tmowleetmowlee 1259200791|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Cuil Unit Forum / Cuil Theory Academics » i‽

I haven't found a consensus for the definition of an imaginary cuil, therefore i offer this interpretation.

An imaginary cuil may represent a contradiction in a given scenario. i‽ cuil represents one contradiction. for example:

You ask your waiter for a hamburger…
0‽:Your waiter hands you a hamburger.
i‽:Your waiter without hands, hands you a hamburger.
2i‽:Your mute waiter without hands, hands you a hamburger and says, "Thank you for your patronage."

It's important to note that although these might seem to be abstractions they don't pose any deviation from expectation as you still receive a hamburger from your waiter. Although contradictions might be considered abstractions by some people, these can't be some form of abstraction as it is impossible to conceive of their occurring. A mute by definition can not say anything, and a hand-less person can not by definition hand you something (we will assume for our purposes that handing something entails giving with hands). In examples of real number cuils there have never been contradictions of definition. All scenarios have been possible on a theoretical level even if they were impossible on a substantial level. an imaginary cuil represents any theoretical impossibility.

If a scenario entails some abstraction along with a contradiction then it can be represented as having a complex value for a cuil.
for instance:
You ask your waiter for a hamburger…
(i+1)‽:Your waiter without hands, hands you a raccoon.

a non integer imaginary value would represent a scenario in which there are multiple contradictions but there is an overlap in the contradictory definitions
for example:
You ask your waiter for a hamburger…
1.5‽:Your waiter without hands, hands you a hamburger and gives you a high-five.

The act of handing someone something contradicts what it means to be without hands, and the act of high-fiving someone also contradicts this. this is represented by one and one half i ‽.

and finally any negative imaginary cuil would represent a specification that renders contradiction impossible.
for example:
You ask your waiter for a hamburger…
-i‽:your waiter, who has a hamburger, with his hands, hands you a hamburger.

this added specifications insures that there is no possible contradiction from the word hands (as a verb).

Please let me know what you think of this interpretation of imaginary cuil, Tell me your own interpretations, and tell me if there is already a standardized interpretation of imaginary cuil.

i‽ by tmowleetmowlee, 1259200791|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

As an aside:

Since ‽ is measuring levels of abstraction, ‽ may only be relevant when at least 2 beings capable of observation are present. My world of perception is all I can know - I can hone that perception over time, or degrade it, but without some other being of perception, my world is right to me.

For example, try as I might, I can never argue with coffee cup. I can hit it, throw it, eat it, whatever, but it will never change my mind. My actions on the cup may cause me to change my own mind, but then everything in my world perception alters to fit. Another person however, can try to convince of a fact about the cup. If we both agree, the relative ‽ is 0. If we disagree, the relative ‽ will be the amount of "reality" separating our world perceptions.

Which brings me to: there may be no way to have a negative ‽ value without a corresponding positive. You and I cannot do more than agree on something - there is nowhere to go after that, our worlds have merged at that intersection.

Re: Absolute Cuil Hypothesis by GrimmashGrimmash, 1259110774|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

The following relates to the psychological/emotional measurement of ‽.

I think negative ‽ values can only exist in equilibrium to positive ‽. If 0‽ is absolute reality, -1‽ would be essentially the same as 1‽ in that it demands a level of abstraction. Further - if there is an absolute reality, everything hinges around it. If negative ‽ cannot exist without positive ‽, the reverse may be true.

Example: Joe gets really drunk, and his perception of reality hits .5‽ Eric takes responsibility for Joe, attempting to mitigate the consequences of his level of ‽. Although Eric is at 0‽, he must redirect some of Joe's actions, injecting a -.5‽ dose of reality into Joe's subjective reality.

Continual build up of ‽ over time would cause a bubble of instability. Small bubbles collapsing could equate to annoyance or a hangover. A large bubble could be much worse - imagine having your faith (in whatever, not trying to start an argument :)) shattered or breaking an addiction to a mind altering drug. All the excess ‽ collapses back to 0‽, and your mind/body must deal with it.

It could also help explain how one can slowly build up minor levels of unreality over time (small delusions), and then have emotional emptiness/pain when they are broken or exposed.

Example: You spend ten years pronouncing the words "rhetoric" and "rhetorical" the same way, gaining certainty that this is correct. You then learn that you have been doing it wrong, and have the sudden weight of 10 years of ignorance smacks you in the stomach.

Thoughts?

Re: Defining negative ‽ by GrimmashGrimmash, 1259109913|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Welcome to the forum
GrimmashGrimmash 1259108394|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Cuil Unit Forum / Introductions » Welcome to the forum

Hello.

Re: Welcome to the forum by GrimmashGrimmash, 1259108394|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I have noticed a general misunderstanding of Cuil as new members join reddit.

They seem to be under the impression that cuil theory is simply limited from 1-6 cuils, due to reddyenumber4's examples being the only tangible and directly defined posts.

I have done my best to educate, but many seem to be resistant to such education. The higher applications of cuil theory seem to be too difficult for the general public to grasp.

It was suggested to me by a fellow redditor that posts and comments should for all basic purposes be limited to a scale of cuil from 1-6. This would then allow for a simple scale in which the common rabble could partake in the theory. In many respects I know this can be seen as pandering, but until Cuil theory is accepted by the public, I daresay that we will not be able to properly educate them.

Limitation of Cuil Level for Layman Use? by AguyinachairAguyinachair, 1259005784|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

As Mad_Gouki states:

"0‽ is that it represents, philosophically, the absoluteness of all things(god, the universe), or mathematically, the base state for a system, from which the other values are based."

Taking this definition; could the idea of Enlightenment as expounded upon in Buddhism and Hinduism be actually a simplistic attempt to explain cuil? I submit that these cultures have been attempting to define 0‽ for some time, but lacked the proper theory to give it any true realization.

That being said; I think that 0‽ is what the Eastern religions have come to call "enlightenment", where all parts of reality are understood.

Meditation as a means of reaching 0‽ is most definitely an exponential endeavor. As one works to encapsulate reality and approaches 0‽ from either the negative or the positive*, one must relinquish the logic and basic mechanistic processes that allow us to properly deal with the world around us.

*As a meditative practice, reaching 0‽ from the negative spectrum would involve pretending that you are, in fact, a tree. Your experience as a tree trying to come to terms with the fact that you are conscious that you shouldn't have consciousness then forces you to move towards 0‽.

Attainment of 0‽ in terms of Enlightenment by AguyinachairAguyinachair, 1259005104|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Agreed.

0 cuil would be the complete experience of the world that you are aware of, with no sense of surreality. As you increase in cuil, you naturally become less oriented with your environment, and things become more surreal.

For instance, I am writing these words in a space that neither exists physically or imaginatively. My words are being represented by select pixels being turned off or on, which you can interpret as words. The complete and total understanding of this possibility is impossible, yet it exists. To gain that understanding would be the attainment of 0 cuil.

Negative cuil would then be not only the understanding of one's own reality, but also of other persons, organisms and non-living entities.

I believe it has been previously stated that we experience life in a range between .4-.7 cuil, with isolated outliers ranging far in both directions; especially within instances of hallucinogenic drug use.

Re: Absolute Cuil Hypothesis by AguyinachairAguyinachair, 1259003273|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Absolute Cuil Hypothesis
Nemo (guest) 1258884232|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Cuil Unit Forum / Cuil Theory Academics » Absolute Cuil Hypothesis

0 cuil does not require absoluite awareness of reality; just the sense that ordinary reality is the commonplace of the happening, and nothing in it is weird.

Minus infinite cuil requieres absolute knowledge, and since is unattainable (like all infinites).

Re: Absolute Cuil Hypothesis by Nemo (guest), 1258884232|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yes, things still happen here. I became a member only recently and I find the implications of cuil theory to be intriguing if perhaps not directly applicable to what you might call current "forms of theory." However, is this not, in fact, exactly the implication of cuil theory all together? That thinks cannot be directly related to reality except under the strictest of circumstances?

Re: Does Anything happen here anymore? by PhikingPhiking, 1258864241|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: 0 Cuil
Liam (guest) 1258815691|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » What Is Cuil Theory?

not just any hamburger, but the PERFECT hamburger. aparantly so perfect that anyone who observes it will most likely think it a figment of their imagination.

Re: 0 Cuil by Liam (guest), 1258815691|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Cautionary Tale
arkbg1arkbg1 1258697662|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Cuil Unit Forum / Introductions » Cautionary Tale

[01:10] Arkbg: in middle school, my bestfriend at the time, as a prank, places under my pillow a recording of romeo and juliet translated at 3 cuil. now i have narcolepsy.

Cautionary Tale by arkbg1arkbg1, 1258697662|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Maybe cuil scale is not linear..?

But then again when you leave reality behind, rules and constants with it, should it not be impossible to ponder, let alone discuss the topic using our brains which rely upon forces like electromagnetism lest they turn to super fine dust..?

Did I leave more questions than I answered?

Re: How do we consent to a singular reality with which to base the cuil? by Ivan Eedle (guest), 1258531247|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Defining negative ‽
andthenwehadtoast (guest) 1258526152|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Cuil Unit Forum / Cuil Theory Academics » Defining negative ‽

one more thing… if 0‽ is stable.. then how much energy must be put into the system to force the universe to a 1‽ state. i think this is the most important question, as we will likely do this to ourselves by misusing the LHC (most likely by some intern spilling coffee on the control panel which as a result will probably turn into a fish).

Re: Defining negative ‽ by andthenwehadtoast (guest), 1258526152|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Defining negative ‽
andthenwehadtoast (guest) 1258525837|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Cuil Unit Forum / Cuil Theory Academics » Defining negative ‽

I think something to consider here or to perhaps add to the last post, is that perhaps the only way to quantify the ‽ phenomenon is by absolute value.

In that respect and with Nadieestaaqui's post.. there actually can't be a hyper-real situation. There can only be 0 ‽. However if you are in a state that an outside observer would label as 2 ‽, there is still a possible -‽ to bring the ‽ level back to its stable 0‽ state. I assume 0 to be equilibrium of ‽ based on the observation that if I do ask for a hamburger I expect a hamburger in return and perception of my query will match that of my idea of a hamburger.

That being said if we had |0‽ - 1‽| which would have to be forced, again assuming 0‽ to be stable, then you end up in a 1‽ state.. as observed from the outside reference. And natural universal equilibrium should take effect adding another -‽ to balance to 0.

What we need is a unit of ‽ time now, because if you are unlucky enough to reach 6‽, then the universe apparently does reassert itself but how long does that happen, in what time frame.. and how long would it take to return to 0‽.

Re: Defining negative ‽ by andthenwehadtoast (guest), 1258525837|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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